I was just putting this at the end of another post but it was getting too long and I figured I'd break out into the college category.
Just noting where we are at with things as DL starts his senior year of high school. Wouldn't be surprised if this is where we land, but expect minds to change over the next year...
DL(17) is starting to get all that 'senior year college apps' pressure and is starting to ask more questions. I told him not to worry about it, since he doesn't have to deal with all the red tape and timelines (for community college). But as he was asking questions, I recommended doing some homework re: colleges that are more in-person (his preference), looking up colleges where he wants to live, etc.
I am sure he will change his mind 10 more times. Which is fine. He has the time to do so. Before this week, he's just been thinking about if he wants to stay home his first year of college, or live with relatives in the Bay Area (and has gone back and forth in recent years). He is finding that the colleges are more abundant and higher quality in the Bay Area. Which is probably why we never presumed he'd live at home (re: community college). I mean, this was 1000% re: engineer child. He clearly would have gone to community college in the Bay Area, if he went the community college route. But DL(17) seems to be leaning the same way (Bay Area), as he evaluates options.
He does want to live with SIL, so I asked him what college was around there. He found a college I don't remember at all. It's in a bougie zip code and has a good business program. I can see why he is drawn to it.
So I spent the week asking people if they knew anything about this college. No one's heard of it, but I am just talking to local people at this point, and not getting anywhere. I talked to my Dad last night and he said, "Heck yeah, I know that college. They have a GREAT music program!" Seriously!? It might be *the one*. After a long summer of just throwing himself into his music, DL(17) seems a little more open to a music minor or at least taking some music classes. & it would be a great way to meet like-minded people in a city where he doesn't know anyone (his age).
Our "we like backup plans for our backup plans" personalities want DL(17) to apply for State. The application is simple. He doesn't seem interested right now, but a lot can change in a year.
It will be interesting to see what he comes up with re: college and career counseling at his school. Is supposed to be very good, so might come up with new options. Also, sometimes things sound better when it doesn't come from your parents.
College costs, for point of reference:
Community College: FREE
This is a newer (CA) thing that mostly no one has heard of. I am looking up this specific college (it seems to depend on college) and they have free tuition/fees/books. Catch is you have to be a local resident. (& a full-time student, right out of high school). I don't know how moving factors but it sounds pretty moot. The $1,500 annual sticker price (tuition/fees/books) would be free regardless with college tax credits. I can see the value for struggling families and people ineligible for the tax credit. But I don't see that it makes any difference for us personally. No matter how you slice it, community college should be free for DL(17). (First $2K college costs are eligible for a Federal tax credit to offset).
The 'free community college deal' does cover more than just tuition/books. It does have that going for it. It's just not enough to lose any sleep over if they won't count him as a resident.
State College: $3K
Sticker price is $8K per year. Minus Federal tax credit and middle class (CA) grant, we are looking at net $3K per year.
I really don't care if DL(17) goes to State or community college. Both options are well within our means, and clearly very inexpensive. So we will encourage him to consider both of these options.
Bigger picture, it's probably more wise to just go to State. Odds are he'd just stay at State, if he started there. $12,000 for the 4-year degree. I'd push more for State, if it was just about finances. But I think community college might be a better fit for him.
He's not going to consider anything "expensive" or where he'd have to dorm. Makes it much simpler. These are just his personal deal breakers, but he might share some of our genetics. 😉
Edited to add: middle class grants took forever to sort out but went up 70% for the 2022-2023 school year. If it goes up even just a little bit next year (as scheduled), we will only be paying $1,500 net for DL's first year at State. Maybe less in future years.